#37708: "Hecate vs heroes"
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• Te rugăm copiază/lipeşte mesajul erorii pe care îl vezi pe ecran, dacă apare vreunul.
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
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• Explică, te rugăm, ce ai vrut să faci, ce ai făcut, și ce s-a întâmplat
31 and 48
• Care e browserul tău?
Google Chrome v89
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• Va rugam copiati/lipiti textul afisat in engleza in locul limbii dumneavoastra. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. Este textul acesta disponibil în sistemul de traduceri? Dacă da, a fost tradus mai recent de 24 de ore?
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
• Care e browserul tău?
Google Chrome v89
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• Vă rugăm să explicați sugestia exact și concis, astfel încât să fie cât mai ușor de înțeles.
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
• Care e browserul tău?
Google Chrome v89
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• Ce a fost afișat pe ecran atunci când ai fost blocat (Ecran gol? O parte din interfața jocului? Mesaj de eroare?)
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
• Care e browserul tău?
Google Chrome v89
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• Care parte din reguli nu a fost respectată de adaptarea BGA
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
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• Se observă frauda când derulați reluarea? Dacă da, la a câta mutare?
31 and 48
• Care e browserul tău?
Google Chrome v89
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• Care a fost acțiunea pe care ai vrut să o faci?
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
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• Ce ai făcut de ai produs această reacție/eroare?
31 and 48
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• Ce se întâmplă atunci când vrei să faci asta (apare o eroare, un mesaj din partea jocului in partea de sus a ecranului, ...)?
• Care e browserul tău?
Google Chrome v89
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• În ce etapă a jocului a apărut eroarea (care era instrucțiunea din acel moment) ?
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
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• Ce se întâmplă atunci când vrei să acționezi în joc (apare o eroare, un mesaj din partea jocului in partea de sus a ecranului, ...)?
31 and 48
• Care e browserul tău?
Google Chrome v89
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• Descrieți, vă rugăm, problema de afișaj. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
• Care e browserul tău?
Google Chrome v89
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• Va rugam copiati/lipiti textul afisat in engleza in locul limbii dumneavoastra. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. Este textul acesta disponibil în sistemul de traduceri? Dacă da, a fost tradus mai recent de 24 de ore?
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
• Care e browserul tău?
Google Chrome v89
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• Vă rugăm să explicați sugestia exact și concis, astfel încât să fie cât mai ușor de înțeles.
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
• Care e browserul tău?
Google Chrome v89
Raportează istoric
In cases where the interaction of two powers is too complex for us to code -or- if the interaction is causing confusion for BGA players -or- if we determine the interaction is very unfair, we will add more bans.
Some examples:
boardgamearena.com/bug?id=21093 - too difficult to code
boardgamearena.com/bug?id=29287 - confusing
boardgamearena.com/bug?id=33571 - unfair
I think the official rules don't include *any* bans between normal gods and heroes, because they don't expect you to mix them in the same game (that's for expert players only). For example, the official rules do not ban Circe vs heroes, but this is clearly unfair and must be banned.
Also, the "How to play" page now lists the banned matchups for each power: en.doc.boardgamearena.com/Gamehelpsantorini
For Hecate vs Heroes, I think this can be fixed and am happy to help to reduce Hecate's ban list.
It is still my view that the treatment of hero powers vs God powers is incomplete at best, but mostly they did not consider these interactions at all. Remember, the official rules do not ban Clio vs. any heroes, but they should (it is not fair for Clio to steal a one-time power, use it herself, and discard it... nor is it fair for Clio to steal a one-time power, use it herself, and return it).
The situation with Hecate vs. heroes is the same. There's no fair way to resolve the problem of a partially-cancelled hero turn. Imagine a one-time power related to moving, where the hero's movement is valid but the building is not. It's not fair to cancel only the build portion of the turn and still discard the one-time power about movement (you wouldn't have wasted the one-time ability if you couldn't do the whole turn). Nor is it fair to let them keep the one-time power (since technically it was used). Nor is it fair to just cancel the entire turn. There's no good way to resolve this interaction. The rules here are completely broken. It should reman banned to remain fair.
I must disagree with you. I think Hecate vs Heroes should not be banned. The heroes can still use their power as in a normal game and if well used, it could be very difficult for Hecate to counter (for example, Bellerophon is a clear example of a hero that would be very strong against Hecate). The thing is, as an hero you have to make sure you use your power well. If you suspect Hecate might interrupt your turn, then just don't use your power at all and save it for later. I understand that implementing Hecate vs Heroes could lead to some changes (and that would be perfectly understandable)... But I wouldn't mind to play with an hero against Hecate, I wouldn't feel like I was in disadvantage.
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