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#30995: "Union hall does not work when colonist moves to it."

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31 Dec 2020 09:55 • Parks • Defectul nu a fost replicat încă de programatori:

Union hall does not work when colonist moves to it.

Move 245 : 2 indigo barrels, 2 sugar barrels
Move 247 : selected the captain
Move 252 : noble to occupy his building (guest house)

^^^^^^^^^ No points for Union hall.

Guest house should also let you chose if you want to move colonist or noble.

31 Dec 2020 12:52 • diamant • Defectul nu a fost replicat încă de programatori:

This is what I cant read in the rules (in bold):"move 1-2 colonists from the guest house at any time, perform the building’s function immediately".

"At any time" does not pose a problem in a real game, but this cannot be respected to the letter in a game between distant players, except to admit that games with players owning the guest house are punctuated by annoying interruptions, most unnecessary.

Therefore, "at any time" must be translated as "at any time of the game when a player would have the opportunity to win or lose VP, doubloons, goods through additional colonists transferred to building(s) from the guest house".

Considering the text of the Union Hall building: "At the beginning of the Captain phase, before shipping any goods, the owner of an occupied union hall receives one bonus VP chip for every 2 barrels of the same type of good on his Compass Rose.", "before shipping any goods" means clearly "before shipping of any player".
Therefore, when a player chooses the role of the captain, there is a turn start sequence to grant victory points to all players who have an occupied Union Hall, this in turn order from the player who chose the role.

It is at the last moment (when the player can no longer obtain more information about the actions of other players), that is when the occupation of the player’s Union Hall is checked, that the one must be able to transfer colonists from his guest house.
In particular, it is seriously incorrect to establish a sequence for players who own an guest house, as the use of the guest house should be decided only when the use of buildings by the player can be modified by additional colonists (or nobles). The decision comes when the previous players have had the opportunity to use their buildings in a similar way, so when the player has the maximum information.

The current implementation of the Union Hall and Guest house buildings do not comply with the rule, and worse, does not respect the spirit of the game by ignoring the finesses of strategy that result from the knowledge of other players' actions. These bugs remove a large part of the interest of the availability of the Puerto Rico first extension on BGA.

2 Jan 2022 12:16 • Sourisdudesert • Acest raport a fost închis în mod automat, deoarece nu a existat nici un vot / comentariu asupra acestuia pentru o lungă perioadă de timp:

Report closed automatically because it has not been upvoted or commented for a while.

Your bug has probably been fixed already, or was linked to a temporary failure of BGA service.

In any case, when filling a bug report, make sure to have an explicit title linked to the incident (ex: with error message), so other players can recognize it and vote for it.

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